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New Post  10/24/2007 12:32 PM
   rdhatch
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Cassini Desktop Adapter : Standalone Web Application 
VWG Team & Fellow Developers -

Windows.Forms are not always a good fit for VWG Applications.  For VWG Applications to be compatible with both Web.Forms and Windows.Forms deployment:
  1. You Cannot use any third-party ASP.NET controls
  2. You Cannot integrate with other webpages
  3. You Cannot have any HTML / Javascript in your application.
In other words - You are locked into the Controls/Gateways VWG supports on both the Web and Windows sides.  Not only that - but you don't find many people developing VWG for Windows.Forms.  Almost all VWG development and support surrounds the Web.Forms.

Now - That being said.  There is good news!

Here is an excellent solution for you.
  You can deploy VWG Web.Forms Application to the Desktop - using the Cassini Desktop Adapter.  Cassini Desktop Adapter is a fully-functional, embedded ASP.NET webserver - making your as a VWG Web.Forms a Standalone ASP.NET Web App.

The Cassini Desktop Adapter will basically wrap your VWG Web Application into a Standalone Package for the Desktop.  End users don't even need to installation anything.  They just click-to-run.

Click to Download the Cassini Desktop Adapter.

Please feel free to contact me or post on this forum.  I would love to hear from people who use it and find it helpful.

Good luck to all of you.  God bless,

Ryan D. Hatch
ryan.hatch konect com

Ryan D. Hatch, VWG MVP
GeniusCode.net | VWG Community Frameworks | VWG Wiki
 
New Post  10/24/2007 11:59 PM
   itzik.spitzen
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Re: Cassini Desktop Adapter : Standalone Web Application 
Modified By itzik.spitzen on 10/25/2007 3:01:05 AM)

Hi Ryan,

Thank you for the information.

I'm quite happy you gave me an opportunity to clarify some issues, since allot of VWG capabilities are not so documented, and you guys don’t even know they exist, you've created a stage to present them to you.

It is most certain that VWG is not good for all kinds of purposes, though, your reasons for not using VWG are almost completely wrong:

1. *wrong* “You Cannot use any third-party ASP.NET controls” - with VWG you CAN combine third party ASP.NET controls, by wrapping them. As for now you should wrap them manually, since we did not release an automatic wrapper creation tool, but we are going to release such tool in the near future. Anyhow, since this issue is not very documented I can't blame you for not knowing .

2. *wrong* “You Cannot integrate with other WebPages” - with VWG you CAN integrate with other WebPages in an HtmlBox and an AspPageBox, please have a look here.

3.  *wrong* “You Cannot have any HTML / Javascript in your application” - with VWG you CAN combine HTML in an Html-Box and add any HTML and Java-Scripts in your Custom Controls or Custom Themes.

VWG is aimed to creating web applications as appose to web sites, this means that in case you are building an internet/intranet application i.e. Administration, CRM, ERP, BPM, ECM etc. then VWG is best for you, but if you are programming an internet web site (i.e. Commercial site, Perception site or any other public non-applicative site) then VWG is much less good for you. I believe that this should be the right distinction.

Regards,
Itzik Spitzen

 
New Post  10/25/2007 1:54 PM
   rdhatch
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Re: Cassini Desktop Adapter : Standalone Web Application 
Hello Itzik,

Forgive me - I must not have explained myself very well.  I am talking about limitations to VWG Windows.Forms.  N
ot about limitations to VWG Web.Forms.

The goal here is:  Desktop Apps that are easy to develop and deploy.  Instead of porting VWG Web.Forms to VWG Windows.Forms, I propose using VWG Web.Forms all the time.  So - I am encouraging the use of VWG.

Please Download my VWG CatalogDemo Example.  In this example, I demonstrate the VWG CatalogDemo Web.Form deployed as standalone Desktop application - running in full ASP.NET mode.  Nothing to install.  No webserver to configure.  This is a new technology, and I wanted to share it with everyone.

Please give it a try, and let me know how it works for you.  Thank you!

Ryan

Ryan D. Hatch, VWG MVP
GeniusCode.net | VWG Community Frameworks | VWG Wiki
 
New Post  11/2/2007 5:59 PM
   rdhatch
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Re: Cassini Desktop Adapter : Standalone Web Application 
Terricide came up with a very similar solution & released his code.  Thanks, Terricide!

Here it is:  http://www.mediafire.com/?3wljjlhl90p

Enjoy!

Ryan

Ryan D. Hatch, VWG MVP
GeniusCode.net | VWG Community Frameworks | VWG Wiki
 
New Post  11/3/2007 1:00 AM
   itzik.spitzen
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Re: Cassini Desktop Adapter : Standalone Web Application 

Hi Ryan,

Thanks allot for your support, I was mostly happy, as I wrote, since you gave me a great opportunity to redirect people to some of the non-documented features/capabilities of VWG.

By the way, very good solution exampled by your demo app.

Regards,
Itzik Spitzen 

 
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